Driftworks Forum. Tags: blind leading the blind croustibat knows shit high comp turbo ftw! Under Rump New Member. Joined: Jan 24, Posts: 25 Likes Received: 0. Hey guys Just bought myself a vauxhall vectra 2.
Cowpatmatt Active Member. Stavros Active Member. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. Sorry for the car being FWD it isnt a drift car and i am looking to start drifting in a RWD car, i just wanted a small bit of help. Thanks anyway My apologies. Well I helped you anyhow, my answers above were factual, yes is the answer to everything you asked. Basic, but it answers what you asked.
Sorry to thread hijack but i have a slightly related question. Are there any problems with using a diesel turbo? I am slowly collecting the parts to turbo a pinto engine.
My plan is to use a basic method ive seen using a boost switch operating extra choke injectors. I can always upgrade it to a megasquirt later. On ebay diesel turbos are dirt cheap, are there any problems with using them?Forums New posts Search forums.
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It won't even spin if you don't supply the correct pressure and volume of oil synthetic to it. I don't even know what those specs are though. Wish I could be of more help. Start searching for thier posts and threads on the older 1. Good luck!
You need oil lines!! They lubricate the turbo. Use all standard 1. If you can't find 1.
Adding an aftermarket turbo to a car.
Since the 1. Good move on adding an intercooler. I found that upgrading the fuel injection pump yields better results than upgrading injectors. The stock injectors flow decently. If there's room in your budget, get the pump done by Giles in Ontario, CA and the car really moves!
He has international customers.Forum Rules. Home Forums Reviews Articles Store. Homepage Today's Posts Search Register. Forgot your Password? Sign Up. Remember Me? Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 10 of I have a A with the non-turbo engine. Is it possible to bolt up a turbo to the non-turbo engines? If so, what else would I need to do software download, ect.
Thanks for the input. Reply With Quote. Toolcat first year model A. Originally Posted by kevin37b. L Drawbar Hitch Hole Size. BearCat Wood Chipper. Ballast Box Approximately hours on L Originally Posted by moship. It's under "parts catalog". Overview - Bobcat Company I could only find your model with a 4 cylinder engine. Once you find the model that uses the turbo use Google to find the turbo online so you know how deep you are going in your own wife's pockets.
There might be the same Kubota engine in another type of equipment that used the same engine with a turbo. My L tractor used the same engine as a Bobcat S but the S has a turbo so I knew it could be accomplished. You could use a turbo from another application provided you know how to properly size it.
I am NOT an engineer and truly not much good at mathematics either or an engrish majorI use a calculator and lots of online help to accomplish anything, thus the reason I chose a turbocharger that was sized properly. Not much fun finding out you bought a turbo for a steal that is sized for a car with a 2 liter engine that doesn't make any useable power until 3, RPM when your little Kubota engine runs out of steam at RPM; message here is size it correctly before you buy.
You might be able to find the add on parts manifolds etc. Chances are there is one somewhere and you might score some good parts cheap, Google is your friend again although this takes time.
I made adapters for mine instead of changing the manifolds. Other than actually adding the turbocharger and related plumbing the only other real modification is an oil cooler to keep the oil temp inline and more fuel from the injection pump. This is simply an adjustment made in small amounts after everything else is completed.
The oil cooler can be of a few choices from a car or another Kubota engine, whatever is least expensive that will suite your needs.In all the movies and video games adding a turbo to a car makes a massive hike to a cars power. In reality this is quite a complex mod with many pitfalls so we will discuss it in detail here.
Forced induction is the most effective method of upping compression. All turbos and compressors will restrict an air intake but they will still pull through enough air to overcome that restriction. Low down the rev range you'll have a bit. Bear the following points in mind when adding a turbo to a non turbo car NASP or naturally aspirated engine.
Highly tuned engines are more efficient.
If you added a turbo a 2. This gives a 2. A turbo charged 1. Now we see highly tuned 2. If you are not careful you risk knock or pre-ignition, so most turbo engines have a lower compression ratio than a stock engine.
When adding a turbo to an engine which was not originally designed for a turbo there are some major complications to take into account. You could also fit a water injection kit to dampen the air charge and prevent detonation.
It will also help to use the highest octane fuel that you can.
Higher octane fuel resists engine knock. With the right fuelling and timing maps we have seen people running 25psi of boost on a compression ratio! We should add that the aftermarket ECU and fuelling mods were of a very high specification on this application. If you can restrict the turbo boost pressure to psi as opposed to psias well as use higher octane fuel you should be able to run a turbo on a standard engine with around the compression ratio. You can read more about Octane and its effect on engine knock in our fuel octane article.
Direct injection first pioneered on Diesel engines is finding it's way into petrol engines. Because the fuel is inject later into the intake charge it reduces the temperature of the charge helping to resist premature ignition. There are often carbon build up issues on these early Di petrol engines though. Particular attention should be paid to fuelling.
More air requires more fuel or you risk the danger of burning too lean. You also want to avoid overfuelling when the boost from the turbo drops as this can destroy the engine. On most aftermarket turbo applications it is unlikely that the cars existing fuel delivery system will be able to deliver sufficient fuel so you will need to uprate the fuel pressure with a new pump and fuel pressure regulator, the injectors will also need uprating. Most turbo kits only contain the necessary parts to physically get the turbo onto the engine ie: an exhaust header and the necessary intake plumbing to the air filter.
Mapping and timing mods must also be carried out. The car computer will also need to take into account the new fuelling requirements of a turbo, especially with regard to throttle position and wastegate control and rapidly changing fuel requirements between on and off boost conditions. We strongly recommend a good aftermarket ECU to allow you to create a custom map for your new turbocharged engine.It is a common misconception that fitting a turbocharger is as easy as bolting one on!
Fitting a turbo to a non turbo diesel
So, before you can even start thinking about matching and fitting a turbocharger you must first consider the engine. The fundamental differences between a naturally aspirated and a turbocharged engine are: the compression ratio, camshaft profiles, fueling, ignition timing, type of pistons and the strength of some of the rotating parts.
Therefore the first thing to look at is the engine itself. Is the engine capable of withstanding that type of increase in its present state? Was it capable when it was new? Likewise, are the clutch, transmission and brakes up to the job? To carry out a conversion on a naturally aspirated engine, the following modifications to the engine would need to be undertaken to effectively complete the retrofit:.
Fabrication of both inlet and exhaust manifolds to fit the specific application. Engine compression ratio to be checked and lowered where necessary, ideally this would be between 7. This can be achieved in one of three ways: preferably fitting of forged low compression pistons, machining the top of the standard pistons or the fitting of a thicker head gasket or spacer plate.
Ideally this would be a camshaft of mild duration and overlap. The ignition timing needs to be retarded as the boost pressure rises. To specify the correct turbocharger for the application we would require the following basic information:.
If you are determined to still go ahead with turbocharging your vehicle, you must first locate a conversion specialist and seek advice from them. Turbo Dynamics do not carry out this type of work, but simply provide advice, turbocharger matching and supply and some ancillary products such as turbine inlet and outlet flanges; oil pipes, fittings and flanges; high pressure silicon hose lengths and elbows; dump valves We can provide drawings of flanges giving dimensions for fabrication of the manifold.
We would typically use a Supercharger or Turbo to do this. Contrary to popular belief this is certainly not a straight forward bolt on part. As you will discover from this article there are lots of additional things needed to make it work.
Adding a turbo or supercharger is a fairly complex modification and one which regularly comes up in our forums so we'll cover the basics of adding a turbo upgrade in this article. The basic reason for forced induction turbo or supercharger is not to increase the engines compression or the maximum pressure in each cylinder. Actually the primary reason is increasing the engines volumetric efficiency the efficiency of the engine at drawing in air and converting this to power by adding fuel and burning it.
In video games like GranTurismo and Forza, we just tick a box, and within seconds our car is fully turbocharged and running much faster. In the real world things are very different.
Higher compression engines use direct injection where fuel is fed into the cylinder at the last moment as this helps to avoid premature ignition issues, and has been effectively used on modern petrol engines, something they borrowed from diesels.
Things to take into account when adding a turbo to a non turbo car NASP or naturally aspirated engine. When a naturally aspirated engine sucks air in, it can only draw so much in before the intake valve closes and seals the cylinder.
The more highly tuned an engine is, the more efficient it will be. With modern ECU's and engine management the efficiency of the engine and drivetrain is always improving as emissions standards get ever tighter. The latest trend we see are manufacturers using small capacity engines with turbochargers fitted, and we see a modern 1.
The best way to increase power is to force more air and correspondingly more fuel into the cylinders forced induction thus filling them more. Here are some examples of this to help provide context on the benefits of adding a turbo. A 2 liter NASP motor will use effectively around cc of its capacity and will typically produce up to an optimum bhp based on bhp per cc.
A turbocharged or supercharged 2. This gives a turbo engine an optimum power figure far in excess of bhp per cylinder, some OEM 2. Take an extreme example of a turbo charged 1. We frequently see tuned 2.Forums New posts Search forums. Media New media New comments Search media. Russia- Land-Cruiser. Calendar New events. Resources Latest reviews Search resources.
Joined Aug 5, Messages 4, Location Colorado. I think they make them strong enough to just add on the turbo and start having fun. If you're looking for a bit more power day to day, go for it, but the Indirect-injection design of the 1HZ seems to lead to difficulties keeping it cool if you plan to work it hard towing or something like that. AussieHJCruza said:. Gday Mate, thanks for that info. What you have told me make's sense. The bottom ends would surely be the same between turbo and non turbo variants?
Maybe turbo charging wont be such a good idea beacause i have a 2 tonne boat that i want to tow. Maybe i should stick with extractors and straight through exhaust.
Cheers Mate. Your biggest killer on a 1hz is EGTs, do some research in the diesel section and you will find out all about it. As mentioned monitor the engine with gauges and drive according to your EGTs and the engine will be fine.
In fact you would probably see higher temps towing without a turbo than with one depending on your fuel pump settings. I can move this over to the diesel section if you wish, there are more guys in there who also have a lot of 1hz experience. As to the install process I started a bit of a write up on how to bolt up a turbo removed from a 1hd-t. How to: 1HZ CT26 turbo install. You must log in or register to reply here.